China Greatwall Petroleum and Chemical
North Industrial Park, Hong Kong Middle Road, 25, Qingdao, China
Initial contact with the supplier:
Online Supplier Directory
Type of product(s) being purchased:
PE, PP raw material
Value of the Purchase Order when the incident occurred:
25,001 to 100,000 USD
Destination market of order in question:
Type of Complaint(s):
scams & other unethical activities
Stage of relationship with the supplier at the time of the incident:
On 3rd July 2014 I received email from so called Mr. Bill representing China Greatwall Petroleum and Chemical, they found my direct email through some B2B website like ECVV.com or EC21.com. I was searching for supplier of PE, PP and PVC raw material for our customer. Many suppliers refused to meet in China and refused to show their business license.
I exchanged few emails with Bill and he said his company is branch of Sinopec and not easy to arrange meeting with his leaders without first order, he provided us business license (now we know it was fake document) and he agreed for quality checking (later he said it has no use, cause they will inspect goods before shipment and check if it is all correct). Customer decided to place order of PE, one container. Two weeks later they wanted to order PP, it was urgent for their production plan. Total orders value was 77200 USD!!! Money was transfered in USD to company account, bank in Shanghai (Shanghai Pudong Development Bank). We didn’t use any PayPal or private account. Now we wonder, how is it possible that fake company has real business account in Chinese bank?
Everything seemed to be fine. Customer arranged full payment, Bill arranged 3 containers by his shipping agent, as price was CIF terms. I was surprised, when he sent us original documents – not from China but from Dubai.
On 24th September they received goods – first container, instead of blue granules of PE for pipe production they got some white granules, white balls. Some different raw material which melts in water. After checking in laboratory they got information that it is just cheap salt for industrial use (for example melt snow on roads), value is 6-8 times lower than real PE, PP or PVC.
At once I called this scammer. He asked me to send photos and he wasn’t sure what is the problem. We send photos and Bill said they will check the problem with factory. We called him few days later, he said he is checking the problem. He just asked us to wait and not to bother him with phone calls. Later he didn’t reply my emails and didn’t pick up phone anymore. On 30th September he said they loaded wrong goods and 2nd, 3rd container should be fine, he said he will send correct goods or refund money but I did not trust him anymore. I asked him to return money now, he said he will do it later. Maybe he just try to get more time to collect all money in his pocket. When I pushed him to pay back money now, the same day – he said he dislikes my attitude and I should not contact him anymore. He wrote I can contact police if I want. That shows his real attitude, just cheater, playing games and wasting our time. He also feels he is unpunished and over the law!
Same time two more containers arrived at my customer’s headquarter in Poland. On 2nd October we arranged official committee to verify goods, record movie, take photo, write statement and collect all evidences. Inside same material as first container, just packing as requested in bags 25kg. Again cheap salt with low value. This Bill didn’t pick up our phone few days already. That means he stole 77,200 USD!!!
Do not trust any trade b2b websites. Two of these websites said he is verified member, golden member with checked license. Also use law firm to verify details about Chinese supplier and always arrange quality checking.